have a local needs on apostasy, have everyone shun you, have no shepherding calls since you left for over a year, and now a jc tomorrow evening????????.
spoke to branch committee as well as co and they said to go and if we were treated unfairly then to call the co. don't get it.
the co would have known about the local needs talk on apostasy and says if we were treated unfairly to call him.
Decision time - do you want to stay "in or be out"?
I agree with "Allelsefails". If you want to stay in, tow the line and say what they want to hear. This is put the burden of proof on your accusers. Keep calm, yet confident.
Or you can "win the battle, but loose the war". You know, if you say anything different than "current truth", they will kick you out and only those on this forum will be here for you.
a customer on my route with whom i have had some lively debates was his number 1 complaint is that "the witnesses have so many rules".
last month i agreed with on this issue.
he asked why the change, i told him that i have been doing some soul searching.
Tech49 is the only one that really understands this feed!!! Thank You Jack Harper! I have literally given thousands of talk on how to raise your kids "Watchtower Style". I have only been in this forum for a month now. Is this how you treat newbies everyone? You go in attack mode because someone has a different take on an issue than you?
a customer on my route with whom i have had some lively debates was his number 1 complaint is that "the witnesses have so many rules".
last month i agreed with on this issue.
he asked why the change, i told him that i have been doing some soul searching.
AS I said, we are much easier this child than the 1st one. Some over 30 years of indoctrination, plus multiple KM Schools is not something you get over easily or forget.
a customer on my route with whom i have had some lively debates was his number 1 complaint is that "the witnesses have so many rules".
last month i agreed with on this issue.
he asked why the change, i told him that i have been doing some soul searching.
Thanks "designs" for the support and advice!!!
a customer on my route with whom i have had some lively debates was his number 1 complaint is that "the witnesses have so many rules".
last month i agreed with on this issue.
he asked why the change, i told him that i have been doing some soul searching.
A customer on my route with whom I have had some lively debates was his number 1 complaint is that "the Witnesses have so many rules". Last month I agreed with on this issue. He asked why the change, I told him that I have been doing some soul searching. I said : That the WT society and the local congregation should a talk lets say on "Our attitude with people of the World", share what the scriptures says and I feel those in the congregation should decide for themselves had to apply it. Lets face it, some things are "cut and dry", with no wiggle room. But my many things are to be left up to our conscience to decide.
For example our kids in school. We have to tell them:" Do not salute the flag, do not participate in any parties (most), do not join any sports teams, no student counsel, etc".
Then he asked the Big Question: Why are YOU still in? I paused and said: "Because I have a teenage child at home, I have to instill some core principles in his life so hopefully he does not go crazy in his adult years like child 1 did". (We are nowhere as hardcore with this one as we were with the first child). My customer agreed that to instill good principles in children, regardless of which religion, was the moral thing to do!
anyone getting/hearing how baptism numbers are this summer @ conventions?
in previous years, reports showed less baptisms per attendance numbers.
overall, annual 2012 service report showed for u.s. reduction in baptisms..
Dalton Ga June 15, 3 baptized, 2000 in attendance. Both are down from last year.
and what are they doing now?.
Razzel Brown and Randall Hitcock
our congregation is rationing regular bibles like they're gold bars.
i was told that bethel is out of stock!
anyone else hear about this?
A friend of mine was just at Wakhill and was told the Society is focusing on the printing of Bibles for the foreign field for awhile and that plenty of english Bibles have been printed.
I only have 5 Bibles myself
my dad is currently attending a week long elders school.
dad is in his 70's and not in great health at the moment so this is adding to my anger that he is having to leave the house at 7am and doesn't return until 6pm and then has to lock himself away to study further in preparation for the next day.. he has also been told he is not to discuss anything about the school with other elders until they have all attended.
what are they learning about that isnt' already out there for all to read anyway.. they can't be learning more bible stuff as the bible is there to be read by the general public so i can only assume that its all top secret stuff that the rest of the congregation can't know about.
if your an elder right now and your on this board your a coward. So what if you have family members that are JWs you need to practice what you preached. Inform the congregation your an apostate,
Then what Sarahsmile? We have to live with our families, not you!
my dad is currently attending a week long elders school.
dad is in his 70's and not in great health at the moment so this is adding to my anger that he is having to leave the house at 7am and doesn't return until 6pm and then has to lock himself away to study further in preparation for the next day.. he has also been told he is not to discuss anything about the school with other elders until they have all attended.
what are they learning about that isnt' already out there for all to read anyway.. they can't be learning more bible stuff as the bible is there to be read by the general public so i can only assume that its all top secret stuff that the rest of the congregation can't know about.
I remember at one school we were going over the Watchtower and Bible Study Conductor role. One brother said: "I like to do extra research and tell the friends about". Our instructor said: "So you are telling me that the Governing Body didn't do a good enough job on the article". There was complete silence. Then the instructor followed up by saying: " Just ask the questions, you are not a player, you are the Conductor".
